Rebody cali 250 on ebay

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wow

not just the price but the whole car.
says its a m3 which i can only assume meaning z3m, i bet that sounds as good as it looks ....amazing.

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elevensies said:

wow

not just the price but the whole car.
says its a m3 which i can only assume meaning z3m, i bet that sounds as good as it looks ....amazing.
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That car has been for sale for ages. I am sure I have seen it asking over £100k recently. It may even be the one that was advertised on eBay last year for £125,000.

£75,000 is a reasonable amount for a decent one but the 133,000 miles is a bit leggy for that IMO. It's a very early Parker-built car.
 
Rear camber looks well dodgy, and it has the hot-air induction kit.

It looks quite nice and I like the dashboard stitched "leather". I assume the window winders work as switches, which is something I like. It looks like a Retrosound radio.

It would be interesting to see what someone is willing to pay for it.
 
Ianmc said:
You could buy one of the best low mileage S54 M Coupes for less than that; much dosh for a pretender.
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Decent ones (like mine ;) ) have been selling for around the £70k mark for a good few years.
It is a VERY niche market, but thinking of it as a "Z3 with a dress on" is not what the market for these is all about.

If you try and compare one to an M coupe for price, you are completely missing the point. Which is fine. As I said it a very niche market.

Personally I wouldn't pay £3k for a Z3 'M' of any description, but I would pay £75k for a decent 250 california replica.
 
Pingu said:
I assume the window winders work as switches, which is something I like.
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Yes, they're great as long as you don't let a hairy-arsed mechanic get hold of them! I am on my 3rd driver's side window switch, cos every time anyone else gets in the car they break it by thinking it's a winder! :banghead::banghead:

And I ALWAYS forget to tell them!
 
Pond said:
Decent ones (like mine ;) ) have been selling for around the £70k mark for a good few years.
It is a VERY niche market, but thinking of it as a "Z3 with a dress on" is not what the market for these is all about.

If you try and compare one to an M coupe for price, you are completely missing the point. Which is fine. As I said it a very niche market.

Personally I wouldn't pay £3k for a Z3 'M' of any description, but I would pay £75k for a decent 250 california replica.
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I wouldn't pay 75K(or half that) for any Z3 rebody.

If I ever managed to finish my rebody to your standard, I wouldn't value it at much over 15K. If anyone offered me 25 I'd take his hand off.
 
Duncodin said:
I wouldn't pay 75K(or half that) for any Z3 rebody.

If I ever managed to finish my rebody to your standard, I wouldn't value it at much over 15K. If anyone offered me 25 I'd take his hand off.
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I have a guaranteed value of £30k from my insurer. I think they know more about values than I do. I wasn't happy at the time, but it's probably fair.
 
Pingu said:
I think they know more about values than I do.
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Well A-Plan (Howdens) don't. I could have an agreed value of whatever I chose, they just increased the premium accordingly.
 
Duncodin said:
I wouldn't pay 75K(or half that) for any Z3 rebody.
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A real 250GT California Spyder is worth around £10-15,000,000. There are less than 57 on the planet, so even if you wanted one and had the cash you would struggle to find one for sale.
A DNA replica is worth around 0.5% of a real one. 99.5% cheaper. I reckon at £75k it's a bargain, as they look 95% real, cheaper to run and much more reliable. The V12 Ferrari Columbo engine had three, quad choke carbs for starters. You would need to carry a mechanic around to keep them in sync at once. :p
 
Duncodin said:
I wouldn't pay 75K(or half that) for any Z3 rebody.
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You ain't gonna get a 250 california, then, are you?
It would cost you £35k minimum to build one (if you can find a body now) to a decent standard.
They are not the same animal as any tribute automotive bodied cars. Sorry but it's true.
All 250 cali bodies are based on DNA's designs, which were very, very authentic to the original. The only reason they chose the Z3 as a 'base' is because it almost dimensionally correct to the original. That was their downfall. The Italians didn't like it because they were 'too good'.
The likes of 'Tribute' learned from DNA's problems, so make their bodies so as to not upset the original manufacturers (whoever that may be). So they are not at all authentic.
Therefore, the market for Tribute cars just isn't the same, no matter how well they have been built (or not).

I get a lot of people asking what my car is worth. A lot. I always tell them it's not a Ferrari and give a figure of 'around £80k'. I have never had anyone say it isn't worth that. Never.

I can't go anywhere in my car without many people either flashing their lights, hooting, pedestrians giving the thumbs up, people reaching for their phones, or shouting 'lovely car' in the street. If I stop anywhere, I ALWAYS get people approaching and asking about the car, or asking to take pictures, or both. Petrol stations are a nightmare, it takes ages to get away. This isn't me being arrogant, or showing off, it's just how people see my car.

So, if you like that, and the idea of owning a very pretty car which makes people happy, £80k is a small price to pay IMO.
 
Pond said:
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£75,000 is a reasonable amount for a decent one but the 133,000 miles is a bit leggy for that IMO. It's a very early Parker-built car.
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Who are 'Parker'? In any case, your car, especially the interior, is miles better done that that Parker-built one.
 
Duncodin said:
Who are 'Parker'? In any case, your car, especially the interior, is miles better done that that Parker-built one.
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'Parker' is a chap (I won't give his full name) who builds 250 calis on commission for others. I suppose he is the DNA equivalent of Classic Coachworks to Tribute. Although he has no affiliation with DNA, as they disappeared in 2016.

His early cars (which the one in this thread is) were not the best, but he got better at building them. I know him (ish) and he is a really decent chap.
 
Pingu said:
and it has the hot-air induction kit.
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I have the same on mine (as I can't be bothered to get an elbow to tuck it into the NS front wing).
I don't find it a problem at all. The only time the air is significantly above ambient temperature is at stand still and the MAF does a really good job at sorting it out.
I have looked at the configuration of the front grille on the 250 california. There is at least a foot square of room in the grille for air to pass around the radiator and into the K&N. Air will always take the easiest path and that is going around the radiator, not through it.

I have taken live data of air temperatures from the MAF at idle, at standstill, with a full temperature engine in a warm garage. The MAF has never recorded temps above 37c. So on the move, I don't see a problem TBH.
 
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